Tsukayu "Strong" Hardbag Installation

AKA: How me and my Dad spent our Saturday.

I kid you not.  Installing these bags took us most of our Saturday.  I do have some advice for people installing these types of bags: follow the instructions and don't second guess yourself.  You'll see where that comes from soon enough.

To start, these bags are super easy to scratch.  Make sure you have something covering your work area to prevent any marring.  That's another lesson I learned and I'm still trying to figure out a way to buff scratches out of fiber glass.

On to the installation...

You will need these tools:
Drill
3/18 bit
5/8 bit
Painters tape
Ratchet
Sockets
A very straight wall

One thing you have to keep in mind is that these bags are not perfect.  There are minor flaws, but you can work around them.

First off, you want to start on the right side of the bike (providing that's where your muffler is).  The positioning of the bag above the muffler is the most important part.  Break off a piece of foam from the packaging and use the painters tape to hold it in place on top of your muffler.  This will give you a place to lay the bag while you are fitting it and it will also serve to give you the perfect spacing from the pipes.

Tsukayu bag installation

With the foam in place you can remove the bolts in the fender rail on the right hand side.  With that done, you can put the mounting brackets in place so you can figure out how everything lines up.  Here is where one of my problems surfaced.  The brake caliper on the right hand side is on the upper portion of the wheel.  This meant that no matter where I placed the front bracket, it was always in the way of the caliper.

The mounting hardware comes with spacers, but there are only eight spacers.  This means you can put a maximum of two on each bracket.  Even with two spacers, there still wasn't enough room to clear the caliper.  My biggest worry was the caliper making contact with the brackets.  I can only imagine the disaster if that happened.  Had two of the brackets been shorter, then there wouldn't have been a problem.  The only thing we could do was angle the brackets further toward the rear of the bike.

Tsukayu bag installation

Like the instructions indicated, we put painters tape on the area that needed to be drilled.  This also helped us in marking where the holes for the brackets needed to be.  It took my skinny little hands to make those marks while my Dad held the bag to the bike.  I could only make half a circle due to the cramped quarters, so once the bag was off we matched up the bracket and finished drawing the circle.  After that, it was just a matter of finding the center of the mark.

Tsukayu bag installation

I have no pictures of the drilling due to the fact that I had to hold the bags in place.  I'm sure you can picture what it looks like though.  ;)  Be careful drilling the holes and remember that you are working with fiber glass.  It will splinter quite easily even with the tape on it.  Go slow and be wary of the carpet on the inside of the bag.  It's also a good idea to touch up the holes with paint to prevent any further splintering.

With the holes drilled, it's always a good idea to test the mounting one final time to make sure everything looks good.  Once that's done, mount the brackets to the bag and use painters tape the second set of brackets to the first.

Tsukayu bag installation

Put painters tape on the inside surface of the second bag and use a straight wall to line them up as best as possible (Note: the black hinges will mark a white wall).  This is where you will discover if there are any imperfections in the bags.  This is also where we screwed up.  We lined up the bags and I marked where the holes should go.  When we sat back and looked at them, they didn't seem to match up.  An hour and some measuring later, we were sure that the marks were wrong.  I made a template that we could flip over and marked the new holes which we were sure would work.  We were wrong and the bag ended up sitting too far forward and way out of line with the other one.  A new set of holes had to be drilled with new positioning of the bag.  I state again, follow the instructions and do not second guess yourself.

Tsukayu bag installation

Tsukayu bag installation

That's it.  Once the second one is ready, do the test fit and you should be good.  Use the supplied hardware, mount the bags permanently and your bike should have a sexy behind like this:

Tsukayu bag installation

Due to our mistake, there were two extra holes in the left side bag.  We fixed this up with silicone and black duct tape.  Because it's facing the bike, you don't even notice it and the silicone seals the holes.

Tsukayu bag installation

Here are some things that we changed and a few others that I'm going to change:
We didn't like how small the washers were for the inside of the bags.  Instead we used larger washers, that my father had in his collection of odds and ends, to help distribute the weight of the bags on the bolts.

Having two separate spacers on each mounting bracket looks bad.  I have full intentions on buying single large spacers for each bracket.

The rubber grommets that are used for sealing the outside of the bags (at the drilled holes) are already starting to crack.  I'll definitely need replace those really soon.

The one thing I would really like to do is use two strips of metal inside the bags.  One strip to go between the top part of the mounts and one strip for the bottom.  This would help distribute the weight of the bags more evenly and alleviate my fears of the mounting brackets eventually breaking the fiber glass due to vibration and spine jarring bumps.

All in all, I love them.  They look great on Selene and are well worth the money paid.  My only real complaint is the fact that everything is riveted to the bags.  The hinges, the clasps and the prop arm aren't screwed in place, they are riveted.  This makes it impossible to readjust anything if you find it isn't fitting right.

I have yet to test the ability of the bags to keep out water.  The only bad weather I've been in is thick fog.  I got soaked, but the bags barely got wet.  The rubber seals seem snug, but the only real test will be a down pour.  I'm sure the Maritimes won't have any issues providing me with testing grounds.

Now I'm seconds away from ordering a new Corbin seat.  I'd tell you why, but Joey would kick my ass...

10 comments:

Vinod said...

Great guide on installing the hardbags. I can't get over how good they look. Are they pretty spacious?

Giest said...

Thanks, Vinod. They do match Selene quite well. There is a fair amount of room in them. If tomorrow's weather pans out, I'll take a shot of how much they can hold. Measurement wise they can hold 26 Liters (6.8 Gallons).

Gunnsteinn said...

Hello Giest.
Great installation guide. I have already bookmarked your page if I end up buying Tsukayo hard bags like yours :)
My name is Gunnsteinn and I am an Icelander living in Vancouver Canada.
I have a Suzuki Boulevard C 90 and I have been looking for hard bag for a while but I have a hard time choosing one because I have had no luck finding any reviews about these products. Corbin looks good but they cost $1700, but I might buy these bags if I was sure they were good. Your bags looks great so I was wondering how you like them now, three months after you installed them. Would your recommend them to me. I hope you don't mind me asking you like this :)
Best regards,
Gunnsteinn.

Giest said...

Hey Gunnsteinn,

Thanks for dropping by. Even after all this time (it's actually been a year and three months) I still recommend these bags to anyone looking for an affordable set of hard bags. They are still completely water proof and still look great on the bike. I've even had people comment that they look like stock parts.

Take a look around their site, they have other versions of the bags now and an alternative way to mount them.

Gunnsteinn said...

Thanks for your answer Giest.

I have been looking at their site and I really like what I see. After getting your answer I am seriously thinking about buying these bags, but now I have another problem and that is to decide if I should order the Strong- or Jumbo bags. I have sissy-bar on my bike and because of that the bags will probably stick a little bit more out, so I am wondering if the Jumbo bags might be too big.

Thanks again for your answer, it really helped :)

Best regards,
Gunnsteinn

Giest said...

Glad to be of assistance, Gunnsteinn. I made this post in hopes that it would help anyone who was looking for more information. I know it was really hard to make the decision when I made the purchase because I couldn't find ANY information on the install or the company.

myedmfs said...

As for scratching of the bags, I've not investigated closely but the gel-coat used in the fiberglass work I did (quite a while ago now) was pretty fragile. I expect that if you repainted the bags with similar quality materials as the bike itself, the issue would be dramatically reduced.

Thanks for your posting. I've been looking at a VT1100C Spirit and putting these Tsukayu bags on. By the time I buy and paint them, the price is virtually the same as a VT1100T with stock hard bags that's available... a no-brainer!

You've helped solidify why I should pay the extra dough now, in fact it is a deal! And I thank you.

ironpedal said...

I purchased Tsukayu Strong bags with the LED turn signals for my 2007 Honda 750 Shadow Spirit. I can't speak to the installation because I had a Honda dealership put them on. But I would like to warn people about the LED lights. The wiring is cheap and the lights aren't bright enough. I had to have someone sodder the wiring. I'm thinking about getting some Kurakyn bullet lights and put them in the sockets of the old turn signals. I would suggest not getting the bags with lights. Other than that, I agree with you; they are great bags.

Gunnsteinn Jonsson said...

Hello Giest. I just wanted you to know that I did buy the Jumbo Strong hard bags from Tsukayu. I ordered non bike specific bags because I wanted to be able to place the bags were I wanted, so I had to drill the holes my self.
You can see my bags at the site at Tsukayu. My bags are even on the front page when you look at Jumbo Strong bags :) Here is the link to my photos. http://www.tsukayu.com/jumbostrong_C90.html
Ride safe :)
Gussi.

Rick Sweares said...

Gussi.
Great job, I have the same bike. I am just as you wee tossing what to do. Was the drill very hard and did they line up the way you wanted

Rick